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Sourav
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other idea could be to take the names form the Indian army -

General > 10000
Lieutenant General > 6000
Major General > 3000
Brigadier > 1500
Colonel > 500
Lieutenant Colonel > 100
Major > 50
Captain > 10
Lieutenant <= 10

The advantage of this system is that we have more clearly heirarchical positions, and the rank names are clear enough to indicate the heirarchy (in this case, the number of posts), and could be more catchy.

Hmmm ...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On that army wala ranking, let me know what you guys think ... I am getting tempted ...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note: i've just updated the ranks with the new ones, the army ones, for a test. in case someone feels that this doesn't look good, or are not good, (as I proposed the varna based rank system) please let me know. it's our own community, and of course we can always discuss to get the best possible result ... for everything.

I'll later make relevant images and will upload them with rank names ...

Of course this must be clear that the hierarchies of these ranks are just ornamental, and does not consitute any heirarchical relationship between membes.

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But then, I'm also thinking that this system of heirachy in the ranks may not be be so good ... anyway, I'm open to new suggestions ...

I was also thinking about Anju's initial suggestion where she spoke about Manikyam, Mukta, Neelam, etc. What I'm thinking, how could they be related to a person ... probably a person would be more like Mukta dhari, or Neelam Dhari, etc. What do you suggest here?

Also, if we take the stones as ranks, how to establish a heirarchy ?

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Because, after a second look at the ranks, i'm not liking the the army ones, ... that looks like too strong !!! So, I am thinking aloud ... what's the better suggestion?

I don't want to put sports as giving a heirarchy to different sports will be controvercial, and for naming people as Ut and Ghoda, some people may be offended. The other proposition of precious stones, as proposed by Anju, well, I wrote about my confusions above ... so, it's your time to speak ... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sourav,

I too was thinking... nothing wrong with the army nomenclature or precious stone-metal one either.. but in the end, what does it signify??? You know what I mean? How can the rank be more relevant?

Like in yahoo answers, the ranking is significant as it means that this person has taken the time and effort to answer so many queries. Secondly, the number of best answers (voted by others) by the person also indicates how relevant their answers were. Otherwise there are so many jerks who just put in obscene replies!!!

So in this forum, if someone has put in 200 posts, what does it signify from a contribution point of view? Sourav, you are the one person who replies to each and every post and query (thank you, we appreciate it!). Next, I found that Naresh was very prompt to reply to our silliest queries (thank you Naresh). So for us, regardless of how keyboard - talkative any member is, you two will be the most relevant and useful post-ers for us.

Ami nijer kotha bojhate parchhi ki?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He he .... thanks for your nice words Anju. Very Happy

Let's look at the french learning thread. Alicia is helping there, but she is helping because Naresh is asking. If naresh stops to ask, alicia will stop to help Wink

So to some extent, those who help are important, but those who ask for help are also important, as they complement each other to form a community ...

Again if we see the threads of Dhruv, Meenakshi, Melwyn, Bablu and others, they are probably neither asking for help, nor helping a lot for the moment as much as you, Alicia and Naresh (since there's no one is asking question recently, probably) but nonetheless they are posting things that is helping to develop a healthy atmosphere and helping to keep the community alive ... as being humans, we also need to discuss things and enjoy our time, not only to ask and offer helps.

Together, everybody's contribution, however little or big helps to form a community and to keep it alive. At the end of the day, things get round up probably, with some posts asking questions, some posts helping, some posts just keeping a fresh atmosphere to keep the community vibrating.

That's what could be quantified with these rankings ... someone's contribution to the community. It also shows for how long one is associated with the community. We can't have 500 or 1000 posts if we are only 2 months old, for example. I agree, this system is not bullet proof, as a post like
Quote:
Thanks Very Happy
can't be the same as a post where someone has spent 40 minutes to post a long informative thread, but to develop something better, like as in yahoo will ask much more effort for the development (for me) ...

You see ... I am trying to recognize people's contribution for this community. Another reason was, as I thought, I want people to forget with time who was the creator of the community, and to remember more who contributed more for the community. With this system of ranking, anyone can have a higher rank depending on his number of posts and days spent with the community. And for new comer's a person having a higher rank will always be more important.

You see, unlike most communities, here you can't know by seeing the profile only who was the creator, once the number of posts and ranks become identical ... I haven't kept a special title for me as site creator as most (99.999%) forum do Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Boss, I am convinced.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anju wrote:
Ok Boss, I am convinced.

Very Happy


Honestly ?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! It is the best one can do within the constraints, and I am convinced about the meaning of the ranks.
I understand and appreciate your point of view, and agree with it too.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anju wrote:
Yes! It is the best one can do within the constraints, and I am convinced about the meaning of the ranks.
I understand and appreciate your point of view, and agree with it too.
Smile


Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sourav must celebrate today as he has convinced someone otherwise normally he gets convinced all the time Laughing just kidding. Good and Fruitful conversation. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naresh wrote:
Sourav must celebrate today as he has convinced someone otherwise normally he gets convinced all the time Laughing just kidding. Good and Fruitful conversation. Laughing

Well, I always know what I do ... I just take special care not to hurt anyone's sentiments ... here and in my real life, and I give value to what other's think Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sourav no one ,i believe,would join a forum or community just to help or to take help in direct way. But yes their views,opinions ,time ,writing skills or any other strenght are enough to understand and appreciate their potentiality .Anju is in India and coming to France so her comments in this forum would be seeking suggestions ,help and at the same time provide details too with contemporary conditions back in India till she is settled here and know more about French system.On the other hand other friends who's name you have mentioned above would be part of the Forum and thats what make it lively....We have discussed so much about Culture and language in last two days and i am sure that must have helped each one of us to understand things in a broader way. Its a indirect help no one has asked for but they got it with just participation . I am sure you would be agree with me here....

I hope you understood the reason of writing this passage . Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naresh wrote:
I am sure you would be agree with me here

Yes, I agree with you ... Very Happy

Also, Anju is not only asking for help, she has contributed enormously in the receipe forum, if you have seen ... Smile That way, no one is just asking for help, or helping, but adding value to the community in her / his own way ... Like Alicia is helping us in the "learn french" forum, but also adding value to the general chat forum ... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took meaning from this statement of yours Sourav----
''So to some extent, those who help are important, but those who ask for help are also important, as they complement each other to form a community ...

Again if we see the threads of Dhruv, Meenakshi, Melwyn, Bablu and others, they are probably neither asking for help, nor helping a lot for the moment as much as you, Alicia and Naresh (since there's no one is asking question recently, probably) but nonetheless they are posting things that is helping to develop a healthy atmosphere and helping to keep the community alive ... as being humans, we also need to discuss things and enjoy our time, not only to ask and offer helps.


Asking help i mean suggestions and views... Smile which is not only our duty but its nice ...its not a favour...this is what i meant. I am sorry if i was not clear with my statement.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not against with your statement infact i am in favour.its just to sense i felt and expressed in my way . Smile
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