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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antrix from Antariksh ??? Hai bhagwan.

Speaking about business, yes it is indeed a very big business. From 2010 to 2015 for example, only countries having the capabilities to send a human to space will be Russia and China. Russians will surely make trillions during these 5 years.

And even for sending satellites to space and beyond, France is the only country in the whole Europe to have the necessary infrastructure and technologies, and many European countries are interested in sending satellites. So there is a huge market for India to grasp in Europe.

India is also having the edge here over other countries in the fact that we can send more number of satellites at one go. I was reading that in the next 5 years, India will send some 60 rockets, including a rover to the moon, a manned space flight, and a mission to the Mars.

And our first manned mission to moon anytime from 2015 to 2020.

Besides the business field, there is a strong military message as well. Though India is yet to publicly announce its 'Surya' missiles, the ability to send a craft to moon also mean that no place in the earth is any more unreachable to India, in case we are attacked and pushed to the wall.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Hi Saurav Reply with quote

Hi Saurav,

you remember , you mentioned in this topic that there were very bad comments by some french on our moon mission. Now see some other comments which are factual and positive.


sachons vendre nos produits : Bravo l'Inde !
Quand je pense aux 50 milliards de dollars que les Américains avaient dépensés pour aller à la lune, 50 milliards de l'époque c'était monstrueusement gros, je suis frappé par l'extrême modestie du coût indien. C'est la sagesse indienne contre les folies américaines. Pour le nombre de prisonniers pour 100.000 habitants on a aussi le même contraste entre le record américain 750 et le record indien : 30.

Inde, nous espérons beaucoup de ta sagesse !
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24/10/2008 21:25
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Bravo aux indiens!!!

Par contre, pendant ce temps là, la France manque d'ambitions, de moyens et s'abrite derrière la "coopération internationale" ou l'union européenne.

Si notre président continue à ne rien faire pour ce secteur stratégique pour la nation, la France va sortir de l'Histoire par la petite porte...
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24/10/2008 13:15
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Je suis surprise par quelques lecteurs. Avant de poser les commentaires, regarder quelques chiffres (c'est vrai que on parle de pauvreté en inde mais il ne faut pas oublier l'importance et le problème de pouvoir d'achat chez nous):



Inde : Dépense par habitant pour l'opération moon : 20 centimes de euro par habitant

France : 100 euro par habitant pour l'opération Large Hadron Collider ( qui ne marche pas encore donc le budget va augmenter)

Aide pour les institutes financière pour le crise financière :
En Inde : environ 1 euro par habitant
En France : environ 5000 euro par habitant

Sans oublier que en inde il y a 600 millions personnes au dessus de le line de pauvreté (l, Inde c'est pas seulement 'les pauvres'.)

Bravo l'union indienne.


Bravo

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I thought the some nice comments were made by Indians only.

But this one of Jérémie: Par contre, pendant ce temps là, la France manque d'ambitions ... sounds French. The posts above and below this one sounds Indian (made by Indians) to me.

Bertrand Monvoisin is probably French again, but a typical french perception is probably given by Michel.

@Exocet, modérez vos propos anti-indiens.
Cependant, il reste beaucoup de chemins à parcourir à l'Inde pour rattraper son retard technologique, scientifique, ... par rapport à l'occident.
C'est un bon début malgré tout.


Speaking about comments of people in position, here goes one from David Southwood, one of the directors of ESA.

We congratulate Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) on the successful launch this morning and we are eagerly looking forward to science to begin.

In an era of renewed interest for the Moon on a worldwide scale, the ESA-ISRO collaboration on Chandrayaan-1 is a new opportunity for Europe to expand its competence in lunar science while tightening the long-standing relationship with India - an ever stronger space power.


And while we people are making comments, the Chandra Yaan is now into the deep space, after completing the third phase of the operation.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this video has feedback from few genuine westerners
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=t2CbAHp_YXk

and this one makes mockery of our mission
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=EcJ-rq3LdSE
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing the videos Indian.

Speaking about this, as they are planning, if India really becomes successful to send a human to the space before 2015, India will not only be the 4th country to have successfully send a man (or woman) to the space, but at that given moment, will be the third nation to have operational capability to send a man to the space, given that between 2010 and 2015 the US won't have any operational vehicle to send someone to the space.

Now that's something to be proud about!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

true.
also there is another thing brewing up these days - battle for space rights. as of now there is no restriction on exploring the space and there r no boundaries marked since only 11 countries have been able to operate in space so far. but due to the growing influence of india and china in space matters, a few quarters in western world (where else?) feel to have some sort of controlling authority.
we never know that a cold war for space may take shape in years to come.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I also feel this is going to happen today or tomorrow. If we look back, when the Europeans started to discover the world, there was no hard and fast rule for anything. Explorers were moving around at their own will. Later, countries started to claim other territories ... The English took New zealand, Australia and US, the Portuguese took Brazil, Canada was parted between the english and french, and so on ...

Sooner or later, space and other planets are surely going to get claimed by countries who will establish their military presence there. That's one more reason why we must establish our military presence in the space.

But I didn't understand the 11 countries theory. We are six, isn't it? India, China and Japan from Asia, and US, Russia and France from the European block, or am I missing someone?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

11 means all those countries which r capable of throwing up something or the other in space. for example, Venezuela launched some satellite last week.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are 6 nations having a sizable space program. India, China, Japan, US, Russia and France. Israel is also having a space program (though not as active as the big 6) and Ukraine inherited some technologies from the former soviet union and have launched a few satellites.

That makes 8 in total, if we count them. The English started a space program but stopped just after one launch (if I'm not wrong), now it's no more active. However, three countries like Iran, Iraq and North Korea do have space programs as they claim, though their credibility is yet to be established internationally.

Are we taking these three countries in our 11? Then in makes 11 countries, 8 + 3. Here, some 10 more countries (like South Korea, Pakistan and Australia) are at different stages of developing their own space program, of which South Korea is probably at an advanced stage of their mission.

Venezuela sent it's satellite through China, using Chinese launchers from China. Here are some information.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

another inference.
i asked somebody why is there no fight for space as on day. he replied saying moment we r out of atmosphere, there r no boundaries and all r free to maneovre as per wish. today, which is the country which uses the space most? USA. so the present 'freedom' allows USA to act freely and carry out dont know what all.
so, it is free for all.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rd country in the world to have put their flag in the moon, after the Russians and the Americans.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prime minister of Japan gave me a call showing his displeasure on your claim Very Happy

i think japanese have already done it before us. so we r 4th.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I thought of reading that they only did a landing in the moon, without a flag.

But European space agency also sent a probe to moon in 2006 I guess.

Anyway, being the 4th nation to have our flag in the moon is not bad as well
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So a recap to the announced space projects till 2015 (am I missing something?):

2008: Orbiter to moon, Chandrayaan I, and hard landing. Done.
2010: Orbiter to sun, Aditya I, for studying the effect of solar radiation on Earth's atmosphere and Ionosphere.
2012: Orbiter, soft landing and rover to moon, Chandrayaan II.
2013 - 2015: Orbiter and probably a similar hard landing to Mars.
2015: First manned space flight for India carrying 2 antariksh yaatris or Gaganauts.

Planning going on, but date yet to be decided (in the decade of 2020 - 2030):
First Indian will be walking on the moon. Probably before 2020.
Orbiter and rover to Mars.
Manned mission to Mars.
Orbiter and probably a hard landing to Venus.
Orbiter and rover to Venus.
Continuation of the Aditya series, for better understanding of Sun.
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