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farhat Major

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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: SCARY -------isnt it ???????? |
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India is the murder capital of the world
A survey by the National Crime Records Bureau for the year 2006 has said that India witnessed 32,719 murders -- roughly three people killed every hour -- placing it in the top of the list of countries with the highest number of murders
India recorded the highest number of murders in 2006 and the trend shows no signs of receding. Recent months have seen the magnifying glass being focused on crimes of passion, but the problem is bigger than that. From rising inequalities in both rural and urban areas to caste and communal reasons, crime in India is totally different from crime in the rest of the world.
If guns, drugs and organised crime are behind the high murder rates in most parts of the world, pegging it to any one reason in India is next to impossible.
In the latest crime survey, the spotlight is turned to mega cities, which account for a huge chunk of violent crime. Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore account for more than 33 per cent of crime in 35 major cities of India. With dowry deaths and honour killings also on the rise, there is no single antidote for curbing murder in India. _________________ FARHAT. |
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sabine IIF City Head

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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| gosh!!! yeah, that's frightening! |
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Sourav IIF Founder & President

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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Actually I have come across this news a few days ago, getting published in a a few indian journals.
One of the biggest problems of today's journalism is that, India or elsewhere, we take a few figures, and without doing any relative study, publish a report.
Here India is the 2nd largest country in terms of population, and the largest country with a free press. So, while the number of total murders in India can become an absolute figure, it can never be considered in the same way while doing a comparative study with other countries.
32719 in India will mean one murder for every 35000 people, given our population is somewhere around 1.1 billion. If we want to compare that with france having a population of 64 million, even if they have only 1900 murders a year, that will be at par with India, relatively. In the same logic, if the US had scored 8900 murders in the same period, that would be at par with our 32719, given the difference of number of people living in these two countries.
The same report that stated 32719 murders in India, also reported 12,658 for the states. That makes in terms of number, for similar number of people, the US is well ahead of us, as 12658 for them means, if they had the same population as us, they would have more than 46000 murders for the same period in their country.
Another variable that comes into play here, which is difficult to estimate, is how well a government is managing it's population. Smaller the population, easier it is, and bigger the population, tougher it is. The above calculation that I did, takes into consideration the linear factor. However, as the population grows the problem increases geometrically. The challenges are exponential, rather than being linear. If by having one fourth of the population, the US is having 140% more murders than us, if we take the geometric factors, that figure can very well increase to 300% or even more.
What I mean, that crime is bad, and every country has it's own share of criminals. But if we really want to do a comparative study, that should be done counting the population of respective countries, and not by absolute figures as they did in that study.
The sources that PeeKay gave, are using the rational way of analysis, discussing murder rates, instead of total murders. If we do a rational analysis considering all variables, we will see that India's crime rate will stay somewhere at the very bottom of the list, and certainly not at the top.
Having said that, I agree that these newspaper propagandas are highly misleading, and can confuse anyone.
Cheers.
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farhat Major

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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Definately ! I agree fully with both of you, Sourav and PK. But when going through such scary, frightening numbers sure scared me you see! And ofcourse, PK, we should absorb 'just the good' as you say, but then facts are facts. Particularly the Nihari Murders shocked me! Must not forget that the 'rational analysis' does change the scenario. THANKS both of you!  _________________ FARHAT. |
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